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Posted on 26/10/2009 at 16:22 by Roger Gale MP
Kent's young people have, this year, excelled in the Kent Test. That is gratifying and, on the assumption the bar has not been lowered, it rather calls into question some intemperate and ill-considered remarks made by one government minister recently.

Mr Balls is Gordon Brown's left-hand man and resident school bully. He is also, for the moment, Her Majesty's Secretary of State for Education. Mr Balls does not like grammar schools and in particular, it would appear, he does not like Kent's grammar schools.

In a recent outburst he said so and he blamed Kent's system of selective education for the fact some of the county's schools do not tick all of his boxes.

Not entirely surprisingly the Leader of Kent County Council, Paul Carter, took exception to Mr Balls’ less than objective comments and wrote to the secretary of state to suggest that he might care to justify his criticisms.

At the time of writing I have yet to see a response from Mr Balls, but I am sure the elves in the Department for Education (or Children, Families and Schools as it is known this week) will be busy preparing the right form of words for him to sign.

Hot on the heels of the minister we receive, next, a volley of criticism from the headteacher of one of Canterbury's comprehensive high schools. The Kent Test, or ‘11-plus’ as it used to be called, is "pretty close to the emotional abuse of children" he says.

I do not know whether or not that headteacher, Mr Karnavas, took the Kent Test or its equivalent himself, but I did. Whisper it softly but, along with a number of Kent's Members of Parliament, I went to a grammar school.  Worse still I went to a boarding grammar school.  (Mine was in Dorset but there are still two, Sir Roger Manwoods at Sandwich and Cranbrook, in Kent).

I recall not caring for any exams too much but I do not recall being particularly traumatised by the taking of that particular test at the time.

What I do remember is sharing playing fields and classrooms and associations and after-school societies and activities with other young people who came from just about every kind of domestic background save for the ‘rich’ who were sent off to public schools. Shared dormitories did me no harm either.

Not being exceptionally bookish I bumped along close to the bottom of the ‘A’ stream and engaged, each year successfully, in the struggle to avoid relegation. Even that annual trial did not traumatise me. "No sense, no feeling" possibly, but I believe that my school epitomised the greatest possible of social levellers.

It offered a mobility and opportunity that simply was not have been available in the ‘comprehensive’ system that miserably replaced it in so much of Britain. It did not create, as the mantra suggests, ‘successes and failures’ but rather allowed those of an academic bent to get on with the development of their particular talents while others, equally talented and differently able, developed other more practical and technical skills.

My own personal experience is, of course, historic and therefore ‘out of date’ because it does not fit neatly with the political doctrine of the day. However, I have, over 26 years as a Member of Parliament, found myself confronted each spring with the ‘school choice problem’.  Generally, this has arisen from a failure to obtain a desired place and one of three preferred schools.

Occasionally it has been caused by a perception that the results of the Kent Test have not been fair. We have endeavoured to address both categories of case, with frequent but not total success, through the appeals system. The process is sometimes difficult. I have, however, seen nothing that to me justifies the lurid suggestion of "the emotional abuse of children" or that remotely equates with the disruption and grief that has been caused by the Government's centrally imposed internal testing systems.

Kent's cabinet member for education, Cllr Sarah Hohler, has said, rightly, that "Kent's 100 secondary schools, which includes foundation, trust, faith, grammar, community, high, wide ability and academies offers something for everyone".  She has, though, to face up to a challenge this year.

Every single one of Kent's young people that has passed the Kent Test this year has a right to a place at a grammar school as close to home and friends as possible. It will not be good enough to transport children halfway across the county because some areas are over-subscribed while others still have vacancies. We have to expand the grammar schools. We have to, and we can.

For far too long Kent, as the surviving county with the widest selective system, was in thrall to senior officers that chose to toe the present government's education policies  and anti-selection line whenever possible rather than implement the preferred policies of the county's elected members. As a result, the impression has been given that it is not possible for Kent to expand its existing grammar schools. That is not true.

It is, in fact, Kent's own policy to "achieve an overall selection rate in the selective areas across the county of 25 per cent" that has been used to stifle growth.  Kent can change that policy and I believe that, in the preparation for a much-needed change of Government, it must do so to pave the way for the creation of some completely new grammar schools in areas where there is currently a lack of provision.

I was fortunate enough to benefit from a selective education system. My youngest son, also, attended a boarding grammar school and although like his father he was not academically exceptional, it served him well. Unlike some who would choose to deny others the benefits of a system they have themselves enjoyed, I want as many of Kent's children as possible to continue to have the widest available range of educational choices.

If the Government's claims that academic standards are rising and if that means more children are qualifying for a grammar school rather than a more technical education then we need to create more grammar schools.

• Roger Gale is the Conservative MP for Thanet North
Posted on 28/10/2009 at 08:31 by Martin Vye

Let me start by saying I acknowledge the excellent education provided by grammar schools in Kent. It is arrant nonsense ,though, to say, or imply, that an equally excellent education is not provided by hundreds of comprehensive schools throughout the country.However, a selective system is what national government has endorsed for Kent, so let's deal with the system we have.

Let's focus on the statement made by Paul Carter, the leader of Kent County Council, that he wishes to expand the number of grammar school places. At present 25% is the official proportion of any age-group going on to grammar schools. In Kent getting on for 50% of any year-group attain 5 A*-C GCSE passes, which means that about half of these successes are due to education in non-grammar schools. A number of conclusions can be drawn from this:

1) you don't have to attend a grammar school to get good GCSE passes

2) you don't have to go to grammar school to go on to university

3)non-grammar schools are good at enabling slow developers to reach their potential, despite the negative impact of failing the Kent Test.

What will be the effect of increasing the proportion of children going to grammar schools? IT will undoubtedly be a hit on these non-grammar schools who are dooing so well for the children they educate.

First, it will reduce the 'critical mass' of childen of more academically able children that has been a major factor in the the success of these schools.

Second, at a time when numbers in secondary age groups are low, giving more places to grammar schools will reduce the number going to non-grammar schools, and thereby reduce the budget of these schools,thus making their job of teaching the whole range of ability of the majority of children in Kent.

 

Is this what Mr Carter wants?

 

Martin Vye

LIberal Democrat spokesperson for Children, Families and Education

Kent County Council

Deputy Leader of the Opposition

Posted on 28/10/2009 at 15:27 by N Tebbet

Might I ask where the funding will come from?  If building more schools this will be at a considerable cost, what will happen to teh schools who lose their intake?

Might I suggest if we are to increase the numbers attending Grammer that we increase it to 50%, this way more would gain from the increase in investment, I have always thought the number attending Grammers to be too low, we might eventually get to the point where all pupils were at a grammer?

Posted on 02/11/2009 at 19:22 by phil karnavas

The press reports (sometimes accurate!) of what I have said seem to have excited some debate. Excellent. However, if people are going to take issue with me I would prefer it if they did so on the basis of what I think - not what they think I think. I hope that this contribution will be of some use.

 

Let me be clear, I do not criticise grammar schools. has many good grammar schools. My concern is not with the schools but with the system. There are two separate but related issues. The first is the system of selection, or rejection, itself; and, the second is the way that the selection, or rejection, is made.

 

I am uncomfortable with a system of selection, or rejection, for many reasons.

 

The economics of this system are worrying. Grammar schools will always fill and when an area has a declining number of children then another school must lose out. Inevitably, that school’s numbers will drop, their budget will contract leading to staff cuts and shrinking provision. Ultimately, it will probably ‘fail’. It is no one’s interest to have a ‘failing’ school.

 

A selective system damages the concept of community schooling. Students at grammar school are often not from the area. In fact, the system is not just for since a significant number of students in ’s grammar schools do not live in the county.

 

The selective system divides not only friendship groups but families. It places many parents in an impossible situation, causes many families to suffer anxiety and places children under significant stress.

 

Every child is different, every child is good at something and every child walks with genius. There are different types of intelligence. My worry is that selective systems may be seen to value only a certain type of intelligence. Thus, selective systems can create their own, but false, hierarchies of worth. In such a system the perceived success of the few depends upon the actual ‘failure’ of the many.

 

In 75% of children can be seen as ‘failures’ because they are not entered for the test; or, they are entered for the test and ‘fail’ it; or, they ‘fail’ at appeal. This must damage a young child’s self esteem and confidence. In some cases this damage will linger a life time.

 

is more fortunate, possibly, than other areas in the country because it does have many genuinely excellent non selective schools. These schools work exceptionally hard to successfully overcome the damage caused to many children by a selection, or rejection, system; but, the fact that they can, and do, do this should not be used to justify the system which necessitates it.

 

All primary schools are comprehensive yet all secondary schools are not. A selective system is unnecessary. There are other, and I would argue better, ways of providing local communities and their children with education. Local schools, each with comprehensive intakes, working together and utilising their specialisms could provide an area with real excellence. In this way all the children of an area would be the responsibility of all the schools in that area. One school’s success would not be at another’s expense. All children would get a better deal.

 

However, the decision to have a selective system is a political one made by a democratically elected council and, although I may not agree with it, I accept their right to make it. This brings me to my second and greater concern. The system of testing is seriously flawed.

 

Children develop at different rates and times. Intelligence is not fixed and to pretend to be able to measure it accurately at 10 or 11 is a nonsense.

 

Moreover, everyone knows that 'on any given day' a child may perform better or worse than expected. Thus, even if the test were valid it would still suffer from this element of randomness. The appeals process, intended to ameliorate this, is risible.

 

The test damages Key Stage 2 in a variety of ways. The test is too early. There is a concentration on those children taking the test. Those who pass it then have little left to aim for. Those who fail it, may switch off. Key Stage 2 results probably suffer.

 

In reality, the testing system tends to reward parental affluence as well as, if not more than, a child’s innate ability. It is not up for argument: grammar schools serve a relatively privileged socio economic group. Looked after children, children who have free school meals, students with English as an additional language, certain ethnic groups, students with Special Needs and so on are under represented in grammar schools.

 

A significant number of year 7 pupils at grammar school will have had private education, private tuition or parents with the time and resources to coach their children. These children are not necessarily more able; they are just better prepared. What then is any selective system actually selecting ?

 

Some children have private tuition at a ridiculously young age, some are tutored very early in the morning, some are tutored late at night, some spend the summer holiday being crammed, some are offered cash incentives for ‘passing’ and some are placed under major strain. Some children, who are put through all this, will ‘fail’, and the damage to their self esteem could be profound. It was this that led to an official remarking that some may see this as being pretty close to the ‘emotional abuse’ of children.

 

I am afraid that I cannot change my view that to some extent success in the test now depends in part upon a parent's ability and willingness to pay for it. This is a difficult area. If parents believe, for whatever reason, that grammar schools will offer their children better life chances then, given that all parents want their children to do well, I would not presume to say that they are wrong. What I do say, however, is that it is wrong to place them in a position where they feel they have to make this choice.

 

Posted on 04/11/2009 at 21:47 by Heather Barnes
Yep, it will be a wonderful day when all of Kent's children go to Grammar Schools.
Posted on 06/11/2009 at 12:49 by M Carter

However, having just coached my daughter successfully through this year’s test, I think you should review your point about whether children suffer trauma through taking it, because I know first hand that they most certinly do.

If you care about you child’s future, and you live in , you want them to pass the 11 plus and get to a good Grammar school.

We probably didn’t even notice we were taking the tests, I agree. But unlike in our day, the schools are no longer allowed to teach to the test. This is especially a problem for the Maths test, where much of the knowledge required does not get taught until Year 6 or in some cases Year 7!   So in order to get your child through successfully you either have to coach them yourself, or pay a private tutor vast sums for the privilege.

 

 

There are no official mock papers available from the LEA, so parents have to stab around in the dark, hoping they hit on the right formula, relying on internet chat forums and word of mouth to best prepare their children. Like many other Kent parents, we tested my daughter pretty well every day of the summer break this year (as some bright spark at the Kent LEA, in their infinite wisdom, had decided to move the Kent Test date to the second week of the Autumn term!). Was she worried or traumatised? Yes she was. So were we. It was a pretty miserable summer for us all. The prospect of failure was too much to contemplate, as the alternatives were not appealing.

 

 

After day 1 of the tests, there were children in tears and that just isn’t right. Fair enough let’s keep the system in , but let’s go back to how it was and allow our schools to teach to the test. It is then a level playing field for all ’s children, and is not just a reality for the privileged few.

Posted on 09/11/2009 at 17:17 by Andrea Groom-Shorter

My daughter missed out on a grammar place by only a few points two years ago. She was absolutely gutted, we appealed but the appeal panel was made up of a bunch of elderly men that were so out of touch with reality that I doubt that they could make a sensible decision about anything.

Her head teacher at primary school told us at the end of year six that her SATS results were better than many that were going to the grammar school, and that it was another example of how unfair the 11+ system is.

Now, two years on she is at a local secondary school , excelling in everything and as her result her self esteem has soared. She is sitting her combined science GCSE next year ( two years early) and planning to sit Maths , English, Biology, Chemistry and Physics in year 10 ( one year early).

The 11+ system puts too much pressure on children at a very young age and labels them a success or a failure that stays with them for a very long time. Grammar schools label you too,  I went to Invicta Grammar school in Maidstone, I left there in 1988 with 9 O Levels and 3 three A levels along with a huge inferiority complex caused by being told that I wasnt a high flier and wasnt working hard enough - what more did they want!!!

The 11+ system has been superseded by the opportunities offered at secondary schools nowadays, do us all a favour and abolish it once and for all !!

Posted on 18/11/2009 at 10:45 by Russell Long
The Grammar School system is an excellent one.  But who among the Conservative writers here is prepared to admit that David Cameron is an opponent of the Grammar School system?

There's only one major political party that backs the Grammar School system and that's the UK Independence Party. 
Posted on 18/11/2009 at 20:03 by Amy Lundy

As a Kent Grammar School Alumni, I feel well placed to add my two-pence worth to this debate.

Kent should be proud that it helps nurture the talents of its young people therefore enabling them to reach their potential.

The alternative is having a gaping chasm in classes between the abilities of students, which draw teachers away from those who need extra help and cannot push those who are able to achieve.

Surely a system that allows our young people to excel cannot be challenged?

We should rejoice that Kent has upheld the grammar system and therefore been able to provide free education of the best quality to all students and that this educationis tailored to everyone's needs.

 

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